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"SCRAPIE ALERT"   By Rachael Schumaker  (3-29-01)

ATTENTION: Show lamb breeders. If you don’t know what RR, QR or QQ (and NN, NS, and SS) is all about trust me, you’d better find out soon. Lots of people know what these letters mean but the real story is what these letters could mean to the future of the sheep industry and your bottom line! 

As many of you know, I (Rachael) work for Merial, the largest pharmaceutical company in the world. Recently, I had the opportunity to attend the National Cattlemen’s Meeting in San Antonio, Texas. With-out-a-doubt, the most talked about subject was “Mad-Cow Disease” and how the U.S. cattle industry needs to prepare for the influx of information (both good and bad) coming into our country. The cattle industry in the US is critical to the global economy…the sheep industry in this country is not!

“Mad Cow and BSE” tops the news stories in foreign countries and daily reaches the pinnacle of attention by US new media. It is just a matter of time until Scrapie is the word on every producer’s tong. (This INDUSTRY ISSUE is about Mad Cow/BSE and Scrapie, not Hoof and Mouth Disease).

As you begin to research BSE, one will find that the probability of BSE becoming a problem in the United States is small. However, perception is reality. And the perception is that sheep with scrapie can lead to cattle being diagnosed with BSE. Animals in the US are not to be fed ruminant by-products however there grows a concern that rendering plants and feed manufactures are not taking the necessary steps to stop ruminant to ruminant contamination. (Scrapie and the link to BSE is very technical, I’d like to have you go to the University of Illinois web sight for more information—w3.aces.uiuc.edu/ansci/bse/).

Scrapie is a reportable disease. If breeders don’t step up and start testing, the government could start mandating such tests or begin eradication of entire flocks. Also, on the horizon could be limited or restricted interstate transit of sheep because of scrapie.

Our advice…start testing and purchasing sheep that have been tested for Scrapie (and Spider). Many high-dollar sheep being sold today will be gone in 3-4 years? What about if the government comes into eradicate your whole flock because of a suspected scrapie case? Not a very good return on investment—is it?

We look at scrapie and spider as real problem from the true production and dollar investment standpoint. Our sheep (as are yours) are an investment as well as an income source. We can’t afford to raise sheep that will be deceased in 3-4 years (the time period scrapie infested sheep will live). How could we in good conscience sell sheep to YOU knowing they were going to not live or were going to pass a predisposition to scrapie to your future lamb crops? And why would anyone want to have spiders born into the operation? Those lambs in-utero will take nutrients from a healthy lamb, they detract from the lamb crop quality plus they die! Every dead lamb costs us money.

One BIG misconception about Scrapie and especially Spider prone animals is many people believe that these sheep are not as “good” as sheep that carry these genes. Take a look at our show wethers; take a look at our stud ram pictures and our ewe flock. These sheep are as “good” as any sheep in the country. PERIOD. In fact, they may be better because they offer other benefits to an operation including outstanding production…how about the ability to produce marketable babies as well be productive sheep for years to come!

So, how do you begin cleaning up your flock? First, test the rams that have been used in your program. Then (based on your numbers) either begin testing brood ewes and/or the most recent lamb crop. Next, purchase rams that are RR/NN. This is the fastest way to change or improve the “condition” of your flock because all of the lambs will carry a dominant R and N. We suggest you make a four block grid to better understand how to breed sheep that are scrapie and spider resistant. In the example below, a RR ram bred to a QQ ewe yields 100% QR lambs. This same grid can be made with any combinations of letters.
           

R R
O QR QR
O QR QR

The testing process is relatively simple, a veterinarian or producer pulls blood from the animals and sends into a lab (either WI or CO). The test for Scrapie and Spider was $30-$32 per head. The results were sent back in about two weeks.

We welcome your comments and questions regarding our INDUSTRY ISSUES (others are also on-line) and our sheep! Thanks for letting us share this with you.


“SLICK-SHEARED, POODLED LAMBS”    By Roland Schumaker

Years ago, I heard Bradley Johnson say, “the wether industry is trying to make slick sheared lambs look like sheep that were poodled.” I agree with this statement to this very day.

What does this mean? In the days of old, the lambs were shown with poodled wool on their hindquarters because it was necessary to use butt wool to balance up the depth of body found in the sheep. The poodled lambs, yes, were lacking in butt muscle in some cases, but the sheep had production type characteristics that have somehow been lost in today’s show-ring environment. Sheep that were shown in the 80’s, were straight made, correct; good hipped and had big tops but had more depth of front and rib. The lambs grew better and had a lot less health problems than lambs today. The lambs of the late 90’s and 2000 are tight in the heart; high-flanked; thin hided; lighter boned with structural defects. These lambs are hard feeders that stress easily and are sick most of the time.

So what can we learn from all of this? What are we suggesting…that we need to go back to slick shearing? No. We are totally in favor of showing lambs slick sheared, make no mistake. But, we also believe that we need to look back to the lambs of the 80’s for answers to the problems that exist today.

Let’s compare the show cattle business to the wether business. The show cattle arena is a competitive place to be because people still value traits that make the cattle industry strong. It makes no difference if you look at the cow/calf industry or the purebred industry the criteria for excellence is still the same. Every producer regardless of the type of operation prizes the production characteristics of cattle. These same characteristics are also prized in the showring. Heifers and cows are judged on their EPD’s, structurally soundness, ADG’s, and many other production based characteristics. And, just look at the emphasis being placed on calving-ease bulls these days.

Have you ever seen a small framed; high-flanked; fined-boned; parrot mouthed heifer/steer win a show? NO-NO-NO  So why do we see this in the wether classes? At major shows none the less. Chosen by  “qualified” judges? Even worse is when that same lamb is shown in August but born in October!

So, what should lambs of the 2000’s be? They should get back to the basics of the 80’s that featured poodled butts, without the poodle. Lambs need to have chest capacity, width in the chest floor; broader/thicker tops, better hip junctions (a real downfall in the business today), squarer/broader pin bones/hips, better butts along with correct, big bones. No-high flanks, no flat ribs, no broken tops, no bad loin hook-ups; no drooping rumps, no fine-bones, no parrots, no prolapses and no lambs less than 120 lb. lambs winning shows. What happened to ideal market weights? Or even worse than that…a ewe lamb with these negative traits winning! Oh yes, and while I’m lining up my requests, make ‘em white…instead of black.

You’re probably asking, why does any of this matter when we are showing wethers? Well, every wether has a mother. And the purpose for a female is long-lived production. Wethers are just one cut ahead of a ram and people don’t always make the right choices when making that “cut”. And how many rams are sold that have obviously poor characteristics for the industry. People trying to raise sound production sheep know that taking care of poor-production oriented sheep is suicide.

The other reason this change lambs is necessary is because the lambs should be based on more market-quality characteristics. As a rule, you don’t find great loin eyes, leg scores and carcass weights from lambs in decade 2000 (certainly there are some exceptions). One reason for this is that these shows aren’t terminal and don’t pay premiums for carcass qualities. Most shows today are judged on appearance and politics. What does that make our industry? Pretty but Shallow? There are sheep with substance in the ring but they are usually down the line in third or fourth. Or maybe farther down the line.

In conclusion, when we look at other livestock industries we see that the wether business has room for improvement. We can make the lambs of the 2000’s look more like the lambs of the 80’s without butt wool! And we can make the necessary improvements if breeders, buyers and judges make an effort to make our industry more production based both in the show ring and in the barn come January. Please read our other INDUSTRY ISSUES. We welcome your comments and questions regarding our opinions and operation



"Tail Docking — 
Am I a KNUCKLE too LONG?"


OK, OK… someone help me. I’m definitely a KNUCKLE too LONG, a KNUCKLE too SHORT, or a KNUCKLEHEAD or something. Can someone tell me where this tail docking “stuff” is coming from and what is the purpose …I have a few problems with all of this hype. 

Who is out here saying that wether sheep need to have tails? I haven’t talked to a breeder yet who says yes bring on the KNUCKLES! Two, three, four or more--we love the idea. Is this some university type out there trying to justify their job? Do packers really care about prolapses? Are spectators at shows driving this? Animal rights activists? Who? I’m confused.

First, the question of prolapses, anyone who has breed sheep knows that this is a function of genetics primarily. Sure, other factors like feeding programs, condition, exercise (too much/not enough), feeding on ramps etc. all can impact prolapses but most lambs are genetically predisposed. When I’m told this is the main reason for the longer tails, I ask if there is any research to support that longer tails yield less prolapses. (Yes, from a practical stance there may be some logic behind this theory). Is there research that suggests genetic connections to prolapse? Why aren’t we looking at the problem rather than just mandating a solution?

If spectators or animal rights activitists are driving this, I’d be surprised. We don’t fight the crowd coming through the barns at IL State Fair. We don’t have lines of people paying admission to get into Louisville? The NFR every year packs in thousands of spectators who pay (BIG BUCKS) to watch animals get wrestled, tied, poked, whipped and pulled for BIG money. And, if people don’t like the fact that we dock too short, what does it matter if it is short or long? At Schumaker Show Lambs, we do leave ewe lambs docks slightly longer. This is really because we breed all of our ewe lambs for January and February lambs and expect them to be productive females for years to come. We also breed with rams that don’t typically throw prolapses. Sure, once in while, we will have one but we don’t have many.

Can someone from CA who has been dealing with all of this “stuff” send back an explanation? Because out here in IL, I‘m one KNUCKLE too LONG, one KNUCKLE too SHORT or just a plain KNUCKLEHEAD!



"Should changes be made in the Louisville Wether Show?"

Roland and I go to the North American Livestock Show each year and we come home shaking our heads thinking there must be a better way. Everyone has different reasons for attending this show but everyone goes because it is one of the elite wether show in the United States.  Our reasons are purely selfish--we go to see friends, to promote our business, and have a judge evaluate our livestock. This last reason is where the problems begin.

When you go to Louisville for the wether weekend, it becomes obvious that the wether show generates a huge amount of interest and enthusiasm for the industry. Exhibitors of all ages, from all over the country come to this show. There is one thing missing from this chaotic whirlwind weekend—FUN. Yes, for those kids that love showing lambs…it is fun. However, we believe with a few simple changes, this show could be a lot more fun and more beneficial for the kids that put in hours of hard work to get to this caliber of show.  We have given this a great deal of discussion (it is one the things Roland and I do best) and we would like to make a few suggestions. We welcome your comments on these ideas below.

Currently the wether show is “stuffed” into a very long day on Sunday. These comments are not directed toward Clint Cummings or judges of the past. Any man (and hopefully soon, any woman) who sorts the lambs at Louisville certainly earns their money, whether you agree with their choices or not. I can only imagine the sheer exhaustion that a judge must feel when the 10-14 hour long day is over considering the number and quality of animals at this show.  And how do the kids that work all year for a shot at placing well in Louisville feel when they get one walk around the ring and one handle from the evaluator. The problem is this show is too long and not kid-friendly. So what possible changes could be made to improve the whole wether weekend experience?  Here are a few thoughts on the subject:

1)      Have an associate judge that assists the primary judge. This system works very successfully at major cattle events.

2)      How about splitting the show into 1 ½-2 days? Show minor breeds and Suffolks on Saturday and the Hampshires and Crossbreds on Sunday. The junior breeding sheep barely filled the ring on Saturday, can’t the wether use part of the ring? A similar system works successfully in at the Indiana State Fair.

3)      Have two co-judges that work together judging two classes at the same time. Allow the primary judge to choose the co-judge to ensure some level of consistency.  The ring at Louisville is large but only half of it is being used…check-in for the next class could very easily be done outside the ring.

4)      How about a pre-sift similar to Houston? Or limiting the number of lambs per exhibitor like the Royal did this year?

5)      Should kids that come to Louisville expect to be placed if they are not in the top 12-15 lambs per class?

6)      What happened to showmanship? All the other major shows in the country have showmanship classes, so why not Louisville? Some kids live for this important portion of the showing experience and it is overlooked in the current system. How about Friday evening?

7)      I wondered if the staff at the North American has done any research to seek the opinions of exhibitors and parents to find out what people want from this wether weekend? We think research of this type is needed to make this weekend less exhausting and more enjoyable for exhibitors and spectators. 

8)      Oh yes…and how about some FUN…how about a dance Friday or Saturday night for the kids…a pizza party…a team activity in the show ring (I remember one of my favorite Louisville moments of playing football in the green sawdust!)…An organized scavenger hunt… or a judging/skillathon contest? Let’s give everyone an opportunity to be successful.

9)      Are changes necessary, what do you think?  Give us your feedback in the Comment Form below.

The wether show is one of the largest parts of this exciting weekend. I’m hopeful that you’ll respond with constructive comments and suggestions (and please include your name and interest in the show) that we can pass along to the management of the North American. Let’s work together to keep the enthusiasm and vitality in the premier wether show in the country. 



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